He aquí la lucha épica de dos personajes legendarios:

- Por un lado, tenemos al Mago Blanco (antes Peregrino Gris) aliado de los pueblos libres de la Tierra Media. Gandalf le solían llamar, pero esta vez se ha cambiado el nombre para adaptarlo a la F1 y se llama Alogilles.

- Por otro lados tenemos a uno de los antiguos cabellos Jedi más poderosos de la antigua República Intergaláctica (llamado antes Anakin Skywalker) pero seducido y persuadido por el lado oscuro de la Fuerza, por el Emperador Supremo Palpatin-Ecclestone. Pasándose a llamar DarthLordVader. Y para esta ocasión, va montado en un Mercedes GP nada menos que esgrimiendo un poderoso desatascador.

Caballeros. La batalla está servida, el combate será épico.

Y como dirían en una película que no recuerdo....

EL TABLERO ESTÁ DISPUESTO, LAS PIEZAS SE MUEVEN.

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FIA adviser: Can I say that if Mr Symonds you’d been put in the position where you were made to ask Mr Piquet Jnr to crash it’s much better, it
would be much better for you in the long term to tell these
Stewards to hear that today?
Symonds: I fully understand that.
FIA adviser: Yes.
Symonds: I have no intention of lying to you. I have not lied to you but I have
reserved my position just a little.
FIA adviser: And you’re aware that the Stewards may draw conclusions from
your unwillingness to assist them in relation to what went on in that meeting?
Symonds: I would expect them to. I would absolutely expect that.
FIA adviser: I think I haven’t got any further questions.”

19. On the basis of the interview with Mr Symonds, the Stewards arrived at the preliminary conclusion that there was indeed a meeting on the Sunday of the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix in the presence of Mr Briatore, which was attended by Mr Symonds and to which Mr Piquet Jnr was summoned. They also considered it reasonable in the circumstances to infer from Mr Symonds’ failure to deny the specific allegations: (i) that there was discussion in or around that meeting of a deliberate crash; and (ii) that, at a short meeting thereafter, Mr Symonds had indeed indicated to Mr Piquet Jnr on what lap – and where on the circuit – he should crash in order to ensure that the safety car was deployed to the benefit of Mr Alonso. The Stewards also noted that, had there been no substance to the allegations made by Mr Piquet Jnr and put to Mr Symonds, it would have been straightforward for Mr Symonds to deny them, rather than decline to answer.

20. The Stewards also showed Mr Symonds telemetry data from Mr Alonso’s wheel spin at Turn 17 (albeit not from Lap 14) of the Singapore Grand Prix and telemetry data from Mr Piquet Jnr’s crash. The following is taken from the
section of the interview transcript where the relevant telemetry was discussed: 7 “FIA adviser: […] Mr Alonso also told us that it would be […] unusual if you feel that you’ve got wheel spin to apply the throttle still at full
pressure. That that is likely to exacerbate the problems. Do you
agree with that?
Symonds: Yes absolutely.
FIA adviser: Can we then look please at Mr Piquet Jnr’s telemetry […] We’ve
got two copies. Have you got the other one here Mr Symonds?
Symonds: I have yes. Yeah.
FIA adviser: I think you’ll anticipate what I’m going to ask you here.
Symonds: I think I will.
FIA adviser: There’s quite, there’s a more significant wheel spin recorded here. You’ll see what has been marked by the technical department as a
rapid increase in throttle pedal.
Symonds: Mm mm.
FIA adviser: There is on the throttle, there’s a slight releasing of the throttle as the wheels start to spin but when the spin is at its greatest there
appears to be a reapplication of the throttle at almost 100%.
Symonds: Yes. […]
FIA adviser: I put it to you Mr Symonds that that’s a very unusual piece of
telemetry that would suggest that this may have been a deliberate crash?
Symonds: I would agree it’s unusual […]
FIA adviser: Would it suggest to you a deliberate crash?
Symonds: I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a deliberate crash so I, it’s very
unusual data.
FIA adviser: Counter-intuitive for a driver to put his foot full on the throttle
when he’s in a deep spin like that Mr Symonds?
Symonds: It is. Yes when he has that much wheel spin it’s counter-intuitive.”
21. The Stewards’ Report also set out the following summary of the evidence
provided by Mr Briatore at interview.
a) “Mr Briatore stated that at the time of the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, Mr
Piquet Jnr did not have a contract offer from Renault for the 2009 season.
Mr Piquet Jnr’s contract for 2009 was concluded at the Brazilian Grand
Prix, on 2 November 2008.
b) Mr Briatore pointed out repeatedly that Mr Piquet Jnr’s 2009 contract was
on terms less advantageous to Mr Piquet Jnr than his 2008 contract. 8
Specifically, Mr Piquet Jnr had taken a salary cut (from $1.5 million to $1
million) and Renault had included a performance clause in the contract
providing that Renault would be able to terminate Mr Piquet Jnr’s contract
in the event that he performed significantly worse than his team-mate Mr
Alonso. Mr Briatore considered this evidence to demonstrate that the
allegations regarding a deliberate crash must be false. Mr Briatore said
that, if Mr Piquet Jnr had done Mr Briatore a favour by crashing
deliberately in order to benefit the team, that “favour” would have been
rewarded with a more, not less, advantageous contract.
c) As regards the specific questions that the Stewards were investigating, Mr
Briatore responded as follows:
(i) he insisted that as far as he was aware, the crash had not been
deliberate and had not been part of a plan;
(ii) he accepted that a meeting took place on the Sunday of the 2008
Singapore Grand Prix in his office between himself, Mr Symonds and Mr
Piquet Jnr;
(iii) he denied that there had been any discussion at that meeting of a
deliberate crash. Mr Briatore stated that the meeting had been called to
encourage Mr Piquet Jnr to focus on the race instead of his recent contract
negotiations;
(iv) he denied any knowledge of the short follow-up meeting at which
Mr Symonds was said to have instructed Mr Piquet Jnr to crash at Turn 17
on Lap 14;
(v) he initially denied having discretely said “thank you” to Mr Piquet
Jnr after the race, though then suggested that he might have said it “as a
joke maybe”;
(vi) in relation to matters pertaining to race strategy, that he was not
involved in deciding race strategy either in general or at the 2008
Singapore Grand Prix.
d) Mr Briatore’s position is perhaps best summed up by the following
excerpt from the transcript: “I never talk with Nelsinho, I never talk about
to crashing the car, he’s never coming to me tell me ‘Flavio Jesus Christ I
crash the car, you won the race, can you renew my contract?’ You know
if somebody do you a favour like that I just you renew the contract.””

continuará---

Segundas partes nunca fueron buenas.

Desde el lado obscuro de la F1.......

Miranda2......

¿Desde cuando el copiar lo que dice el documento oficial es poner "datos alterados"..?

Es el colmo..... como para "salirse x la tangente" arguyendo que los datos no son correctos.....

Despierten ya...!! Y de pilón un poco mas del documento oficial.... para los que SI les interesa conocer la verdad... continuación del # 51

Stewards’ Investigation
15. The FIA’s President requested, pursuant to Article 179(b) of the International Sporting Code (“ISC”), that a meeting of the Stewards of the 2009 Belgian Grand Prix (Lars Österlind, Vassilis Despotopoulos and Yves Bacquelaine) (“Stewards”) and the FIA Observer (Herbie Blash) be convened in order to conduct further enquiries into Mr Piquet Jnr’s allegations (“Stewards’ Investigation”) with a view to the preparation by the International Stewards of a report under Article 152 ISC (“Stewards’ Report”).2 In carrying out the Stewards’ Investigation, and in preparing the Stewards’ Report, the Stewards were assisted by the FIA Technical Department and the FIA’s external legal advisors, Sidley Austin LLP and the Quest investigations agency.

16. The Stewards reviewed the available information, including Mr Piquet Jnr’s
statements, a map of the circuit indicating the location of relevant safety
equipment, the telemetry data produced by the FIA Technical Department and a video of the crash itself. The Stewards then summoned and interviewed Renault F1 employees considered to be relevant to the Stewards’ Investigation on 27 and 28 August 2009, asking them questions in relation to the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix and requesting the provision of relevant documents.

Stewards’ Report
17. Over the course of the week commencing 31 August 2009, the Stewards’ Report was prepared. The Stewards’ Report set out the key evidence derived, inter alia, from Mr Piquet Jnr’s statements, the FIA Technical Department’s analyses of the telemetry data, the comments made at interview by Renault F1 employees and the additional documentation provided by Renault F1. This Report was delivered to the FIA’s President on 4 September 2009.

18. The Stewards’ Report set out excerpts from the transcripts of the interviews conducted with Mr Symonds and Mr Briatore. The most relevant excerpts were as follows:
“FIA adviser3: [In relation to the meeting among Mr Briatore, Mr Symonds and Mr Piquet Jnr on the day of the race – see paragraph 4.1, above.] In
your own words Mr Symonds what do you recall being said to Nelson Piquet Jnr at that meeting? This is shortly before the race.
Symonds: I don’t really remember it.
FIA adviser: You don’t remember?
Symonds: No.
FIA adviser: Nelson Piquet Jnr says that he was asked by you to cause a
deliberate crash. Is that true?
Symonds: Nelson had spoken to me the day before and suggested that. That’s
all I’d really like to say. […]
FIA adviser: Mr Symonds were you aware that there was going to be a crash at Lap 14?
Symonds: I don’t want to answer that question.[…]
FIA adviser: There is just one thing that I ought to ask you and put it to you so you can think about it at least. Mr Piquet Jnr says that having had the initial meeting with you and Flavio Briatore you then met with him individually with the map of the circuit. Do you remember that?
Symonds: I won’t answer, rather not answer that. I don’t recall it but it
sounds like Nelson’s talked a lot more about it.
FIA adviser: Mr Piquet Jnr also says that at that meeting you pointed out a
specific place on the circuit where he was to have the accident and said it was because it was the furthest away from any of the safety or lifting equipment and gave the most likely chance of a safety car being deployed.
Symonds: I don’t, I don’t want to answer that question.[…]
FIA adviser: [Referring to the meeting in Mr Briatore’s office among Mr
Briatore, Mr Symonds and Mr Piquet Jnr, on which see paragraph 2.1, above.] Was it you that did the talking at that meeting Mr Symonds?
Symonds: I’m sure it would have been both of us but I don’t know for sure.
Sorry that’s a contradiction. I would imagine it would be both of us that would be normal. Actually probably more often it’s Flavio that does the talking himself. I wouldn’t necessarily always agree with what he’s saying but the majority.
FIA adviser: Because just to be absolutely clear here what Nelson Piquet Jnr
has said is that at that meeting it was you that asked him to have
the crash deliberately?
Symonds: I can’t answer you.

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¿Todos contra lord? No lo creo, pues no da para tanto. Tan solo hay que darle un poco de cuerda de vez en cuando para que el mismo se ate la soga al cuello y salte. (en sentido figurado, claro está)

La lucha, de existir tal, es de lord contra el poder de la razón, y esta amigo mio es una batalla que tiene perdida de antemano.

Las cosas afortunadamente son como son.

eric 63 eso que dices es cierto cuando se refieren a opiniones personales. Todo tenemos la nuestra y podemos estar equivocados o no, es algo subjetivo. Pero cuando se trata de datos y éstos están alterados, eso es mentir, no hay duda ninguna.

Ahora que si vosotros sois exigentes.....

Y quieren algo más técnico......

que mejor que unos cuantos comparativos "onboard"....

http://www.4shared.com/file/122556177/7b858a4b/El_mejor_piloto_de_F1_p1.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122556182/8c77620b/El_mejor_piloto_de_F1_p2.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122740379/ca7aa445/El_mejor_piloto_de_F1_p3.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/122740419/996f1546/El_mejor_piloto_de_F1_p4.html

"la historia pone a cada quien en su lugar....." jejejejeje

Desde el lado obscuro.....

Este video está mas divertido....

http://www.4shared.com/file/131410813/c396e2e1/Inolvidable_carrera_de_Fernando_Alonso.html

Ea vamos!!! que la noticia es que la FIA no se va a quedar de brazos cruzados; yo, personalmente espero que el principal responsable (Nelson Piquet), no quede impune, a pesar de la inmunidad que le dieron.

Saludos a todos.

bueno se fueron todos contra lord,,, jejeje hay que aflojarle un poquito,
pero bueno creo que tanto como mentir no se,,,, creo que todos al tratar de defender su punto de vista y sus pasiones, acomodan involuntariamente sus opiniones, pues por que todos en cierta manera creen estar en lo correcto, con un poco menos de pasion a lo mejor veriamos los puntos de vista de todos y llegariamos a una mejor opinion de la que nos quieren presentar los medios, en algunos casos parcializados.

Pongo un vídeo de tu "admirado" para que la búsqueda se te haga un poco más amena.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2awU4ZBV6Y

Ahora si que la he hecho buena.

Tú venganza será terrible. Jejeje.

desde el lado obscuro............

Que conste que tu lo pediste........
Normalmente, me caes bien, pero cuando hablas x hablar....
hay que hacer algo.... para taparte la boca......
ve mi avatar.... eso usaré... jajajajaja

http://www.f1aldia.com/6770/hakkinen-michael-no-lo-tendra-facil.html#comentarios

Por cierto esas mentiras que me achacas estarán diseminadas por ahí. .

Si por casualidad encuentras alguna... Lo mejor será que copies el link y pongas el nº del post en cuestión.

Lo digo, más que nada para evitar que caigas en tentaciones extrañas.